Hi Onlymatch4u
With all respect, this is crap,
"…the problem with doctors these days is that they only look at the total LDL numbers and not the "ratio" of pattern 1 to pattern 2 and if you show a high number of LDL, they put you on those stupid drugs that damage your health. Lipitor and statin drugs cause your liver to turn on the gene that causes muscle atrophy. That is why about 60% of people that take that drug get muscle cramps. Their muscles are now deteriorating. It’s interesting to note that your heart is a muscle. A good LDL number is around 160 and HDL around 50."
GOOD Doctors always take the FULL lipid profile into consideration. It’s always important to consider the relative amounts of HDL and LDL . One needs to aim for a high level of HDL and a low level of LDL (low TC:HDL ratio). If you’ve read our answers before you will know that Dr.Frank and I always say this. Don’t tar us all with the same brush please.
And link me to your source for this claim please, " 60% of people that take that drug get muscle cramps"
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Fresh, unprocessed, unsalted foods (includes baked goods and deli meats and cheeses)
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It is much more what you avoid rather than what you eat, but this also does have a part to play. To reduce the risk of elevated blood pressure you need to be no more than your ideal weight, take regular vigorous exercise and reduce your salt intake. To assist cholesterol reduction reduce animal fats and increase foods rich in omega 3 such as oily fish, vigorous exercise also improves lipid profiles.
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GP for more years than I care to remember
Citric acid, although acid in its fresh form (lemon and limes) transforms during metabolism into alkali. This is helpful to your blood. Our American diet tends to be overly acidic from coffee, sodas, alcohol, and certain proteins. An acidic condition tends to be more inflammatory.Citric acid is essential to the Krebs cycle, Citric acid, together with malic acid, are involved with complex chemical actions, resulting in the production of carbon dioxide, and its removal from the cells.
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http://www.getsupplementreviews.com/general-health/citric-acid-for-blood-pressure/
Please note that 75% of cholesterol is produced by the liver and 25% comes from the food.
Adopt DASH diet (Mediterranean diet). Eat a low-cholesterol, low-fat diet, which includes cottage cheese, fat-free milk, fish, vegetables, poultry, and egg whites. Use monounsaturated oils such as olive, peanut, and canola oils or polyunsaturated oils such as corn, safflower, soy, sunflower, cottonseed, and soybean oils. Avoid foods with excess fat in them such as meat (especially liver and fatty meat), egg yolks, whole milk, cream, butter, shortening, pastries, cakes, cookies, gravy, peanut butter, chocolate, olives, potato chips, coconut, cheese (other than cottage cheese), coconut oil, palm oil, and fried foods.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DASH_diet
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/patientinstructions/000099.htm
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/patientinstructions/000110.htm
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002436.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-3_fatty_acid#Health_benefits
Cholesterol numbers are only important if you see big changes in the numbers or if they are extremely high. Cholesterol is a form of alcohol, not a fat. When your cholesterol numbers increase it is only an indication of increased inflammation going on in your body. The only part of cholesterol that should be of any concern regarding heart disease is the pattern 2 LDL. The pattern 1 LDL is good cholesterol that is what your body uses to transport fatty acids to damaged areas of the body as part of the healing process. To reduce the pattern 2 LDL is simply a matter of eliminating GRAINS, SUGAR, and CORNSTARCH from your diet. If you do this, you will typically see your LDL numbers go down. The problem with doctors these days is that they only look at the total LDL numbers and not the "ratio" of pattern 1 to pattern 2 and if you show a high number of LDL, they put you on those stupid drugs that damage your health. Lipitor and statin drugs cause your liver to turn on the gene that causes muscle atrophy. That is why about 60% of people that take that drug get muscle cramps. Their muscles are now deteriorating. It’s interesting to note that your heart is a muscle. A good LDL number is around 160 and HDL around 50.
High blood pressure can come from many things, but SALT is NOT one of them. Salt is required in your body to produce stomach acid. That is where the body gets a lot of it’s CL- ions to make HCL (stomach acid). One of the major contributors to heart disease, diabetes, and kidney problems is due to the nanobacteria that enters the body as a result of low stomach acid. So, to reduce your salt intake is to encourage low stomach acid and allow this bacteria to enter your body to have free reign. Researchers from the University of California at Irvine and the University of Pennsylvania found this bacteria is a major player in plaque build up in the layers of the arteries around the heart. It is a balance of sodium and potassium that is important. To eliminate salt is not wise. Salt is also necessary for good adrenal function. The type of salt you choose is critical. Typical table salt, like that really bad Morton Salt that "rains when it pours" is terrible for the body. Get a good "air dried sea salt" that contains lots of electrolytes and a good balance of sodium and potassium. There is NO credible evidence or study that shows salt causes high blood pressure anywhere.
Good Longevity is associated with cholesterol numbers for men between 200 and 240 total cholesterol. For women it should be above 240. This is not what you will hear from doctors or drug companies because they want to sell you Lipitor or some other drug.
Good foods to avoid are the ones that create INFLAMMATION. High omega 6 fatty acids are notorious for this. You body needs to consume omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids each day. These are called essential because your body cannot produce them. A ratio of 1:1 or 1:2 omega 3 to omega 6 is ideal. Most Americans range between 1:20 to 1:50 ratio and that is one of the primary reasons heart disease is so rampant. Then to reduce the very thing that is going to help heal and transport good fatty acids is ridiculous and simply bad science.
One of the most basic and important things to realize is that homocystein proteins cause the blood to become sticky and the walls of the arteries to develop "bulges" and become more sticky as well.
Deficiencies in folic acid, B-6 and B-12 are the primary causes of these proteins forming. A folic acid deficiency also causes polyps in your colon, according to the AMA. The primary source of these good b-vitamins are ANIMAL FATS and your intestinal flora.
Animal fats are not bad, in fact they are a part of primitive cultures that were extremely healthy. The problem is not the fats, but what they are feeding commercial animals now that are making them unhealthy and generating bad fats. Animals that are fed their natural diets, such as grass, do not produce bad fats.
Doctors are not the place to go to ask about diets. They are not trained in nutrition in school. It is why doctors rely on dieticians in hospitals to determine what foods to eat for particular affects. Doctors treat symptoms, not root causes of diseases. This is why there is such a focus on treating the symptom of high cholesterol, rather than the root causes.
For more good solid information, get some books by very credible people regarding fats and oils that know what they are talking about, like Mary G. Enig, Ph.D that is one of the most respected world experts on this subject. She testified before Congress of the United States working very hard to get TRANS FATS eliminated from the American diet.
Fat free diets are not good. That is a myth that is being promoted by people who simply do not understand how the body works. Each membrane in every cell of your body is made of fat. When you eat low fat this and that, you are depriving your body of what it should be getting a large part of it’s energy from. You need to focus on good fats, not eat the bad fats like Vegetable oils, trans fats, hydrogenated fats, etc. Those are the culprits making the body inflamed, not the good fats.
EDIT: Rihanna, with all due respects to you, you are not correct. Doctors typically do NOT look at the ratios of LDL. Yes, they look at the ratios of LDL to HDL, but that is NOT what I said. LDL has several aspects to it and you did not address that issue. This is why there is a lot of confusion on this issue. You really do need to do your homework and not allow the indoctrination of the drug companies sway you on this subject. The very dense particles of pattern 2 LDL are the culprits, not the pattern 1 LDL particles because they are larger and the HDL has no problem taking those back to the liver for reconjugation.
Looking at the total LDL number and using that as the criteria for recommending a cholesterol drug is ludicrous and is being done every day. And yes, the statins do cause muscle atrophy by turning on the gene that causes this. Why do you think the drug companies always want doctors to test the liver to see if it is already damaged? Because they know that Lipitor and other statin drugs damage the liver and to add to that damage may cause big problems for the patient.
Do you actually believe eating too much cholesterol causes heart disease? You really do need to stop making statements that you know nothing about and if you are relying on drug company information to guide you, you need to get educated by reading books and literature from people who are true experts in the field of fats and oils, not the "hired guns" of the drug industry who put profit as their primary motivation, not health.
Do you know doctors that get PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) lab tests, because that is the only way I know of to get the true pattern 1 to pattern 2 ratios? To recommend any drugs without knowing this ratio is simply bad science and it is being done everywhere by doctors that apparently have no clue. I recognize you are in the medical field and feel you must justify everything that is done, but you really need to open your eyes and become educated about this subject before making your statements.
If you will read my previous post, you will see I recommended one of the most prestigious and well respected people in the field of fats and oils, Mary G. Enig, Ph.D. There are many others, but she is a good start for you to do some homework on. I do not believe you will find anyone that will refute her credibility or knowledge on the subject.
P.S., I see you and Dr. Frank have teamed up again on answering questions. Quite a mutual admiration society thing you guys have going.
good luck to you
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CNT, B.A. biology & chemistry
advanced nutritional research
Hi Onlymatch4u
With all respect, this is crap,
"…the problem with doctors these days is that they only look at the total LDL numbers and not the "ratio" of pattern 1 to pattern 2 and if you show a high number of LDL, they put you on those stupid drugs that damage your health. Lipitor and statin drugs cause your liver to turn on the gene that causes muscle atrophy. That is why about 60% of people that take that drug get muscle cramps. Their muscles are now deteriorating. It’s interesting to note that your heart is a muscle. A good LDL number is around 160 and HDL around 50."
GOOD Doctors always take the FULL lipid profile into consideration. It’s always important to consider the relative amounts of HDL and LDL . One needs to aim for a high level of HDL and a low level of LDL (low TC:HDL ratio). If you’ve read our answers before you will know that Dr.Frank and I always say this. Don’t tar us all with the same brush please.
And link me to your source for this claim please, " 60% of people that take that drug get muscle cramps"
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Cardiac Nurse
You know baking not frying. Cut your beef amounts in half. Eat less-no grazing thru the day. Journal your food every time you eat. Sit down with a dietitian and your journal and plan what you eat. This may mean organizing your meals into groups. 5meals=appropriate for suppers 5meals appropriate for lunches, 5 must have breakfasts (because eating a bowl of oatmeal am does keep you full for hours). Start eating celery, using turmeric for spice in your cooking (seriously), eat regular yogurt, a few almonds +brazil nuts. And fresh veg tables, and a fresh fruit a day. Make sure your favorite foods are included in moderate amounts. Reduce salt drastically and cut cheese way down. My brother a psychologist, ate out allot, he stopped that and ate fresh at home, lost 40 lbs, walked after meals and now has normal levels. It can be done.
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